[holymoses]

Oh . . . Here I am! And I found my old friend duckettplease, too!



I wonder when and why I created "RSA Linkster" . . . It's my own joke and even I don't get it!

[GEORGIAfan]

I need a workout plan that can help me lose alot of weight. especially around the abs and quads.

[JDaveG]

:laugh: at HolyMoses.  The migration over was an adventure, but once you get everything set up, I think it's worth it.  I miss your avatar, BTW.

GEORGIAfan, you can't spot-reduce weight.  You either lose or gain total weight.  Same with fat - there's no way short of liposuction to just take fat out of one part of your body.  You just decrease your OVERALL body fat percentage.  The good news is the places you mention are the last to go.  The bad news is....well, they're the last to go.

I'd try to cut some calories out of your diet and try that for a few weeks and see what results you get.  If you are not working out AT ALL now, the flipside is to start and give THAT a few weeks.  Weigh yourself daily, but the visual cues are probably better than the scale, because you can gain muscle, lose fat, and gain weight that way.

[MidWest Falcon]

Bump, lets get this pinned ;)

[dday]

I'm going to get in on this thread this time around. I've been working hard the last 6 months but haven't been keeping to my diet, I am eating way less and have shown some gains. I've lost 2 jean sizes and am thicker than I have been in a number of years.



I do have a question for anyone who might know.

I've always heard that you're supposed to eat within the first hour of being awake in the morning to kick start your metabolism but I've also heard that you should do cardio on an empty stomach so you burn the stored energy not the energy in your stomach. Since I work out first thing in the morning, what should I do? Eat then workout or workout then eat? Thanks.

[ancient raptor]

I just finished 18 sessions of pulmonary rehab, so at least I can breathe again.:D

[JDaveG]

6 of 1, half dozen of the other IMHO.  You can do cardio on an empty stomach, and you will burn more fat calories that way, but your workout may suffer (which IMHO, defeats the purpose).  Or you can eat a solid breakfast (clean food, no junk) and then workout and have a small PWO snack like a banana or a shake, and your workout will be well-fueled, but you will burn marginally less.

I eat first thing every morning, FWIW.  Whole grain English Muffins with organic peanut butter or steel cut oats with honey and cinnamon (and sometimes banana), and coffee.  I usually don't do ANY workout on a completely empty stomach, though I do eat very light about an hour before before running (maybe a banana or some oatmeal).

[I'm the Answer]

im bout to go throw up 275 8 x's and run woooo

[dday]

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6 of 1, half dozen of the other IMHO. You can do cardio on an empty stomach, and you will burn more fat calories that way, but your workout may suffer (which IMHO, defeats the purpose). Or you can eat a solid breakfast (clean food, no junk) and then workout and have a small PWO snack like a banana or a shake, and your workout will be well-fueled, but you will burn marginally less.



I eat first thing every morning, FWIW. Whole grain English Muffins with organic peanut butter or steel cut oats with honey and cinnamon (and sometimes banana), and coffee. I usually don't do ANY workout on a completely empty stomach, though I do eat very light about an hour before before running (maybe a banana or some oatmeal).

Cool, thanks! I do have a hard time eating first thing in the morning, but maybe I'll choke down some oatmeal or something. I did notice my workouts not all being as good as they were when I worked out in the evenings but thought I was just getting old :pinch:

[MidWest Falcon]

Hey JDave, what's some good alternatives for a healthy dinner besides chicken/salad/etc. etc. etc.  I'm getting tired of chicken but I am really trying to eat right so I'm not packing myself with calories before I go to bed ;)

[JDaveG]

Before my wife's latest pregnancy (and resultant queasy stomach) we ate a lot of grilled fish.  Lean beef (like flank steak or roast beef) is good in moderation, too.  Beyond that, we just get really creative with chicken.  We do stir fry (like last night), pesto chicken pasta (with whole wheat pasta), etc.

And we probably cheat twice a week, though I try to make one of those my "official" cheat days.

I'm thinking of taking up the Church discipline of fasting :laugh:

[IIIsp1tf1reIII]

I just got my wife and I a membership to the gym yesterday. I plan on going today for the first time in few years. Can't wait to feel like I got hit by a train tomorrow.:rolleyes:



Do any of you take any type of supplements? I used to take some type of EAS creatine and drink Myoplex deluxe shakes and boy did that stuff work. I put on muscle so fast it was scary. My bench jumped 100 lbs in no time, I went from being able to do 3 inverted flips on my wakeboard to being able to do 11 in one summer. I was impressed with those results because i turned into a machine but I would imagine they have some better stuff out now though because this was 4 or 5 years ago. Any suggestions?

[ki45toryu]

Ran a small mountain range on the north side of Phoenix yesterday...2 miles...about had a heart attack. It didnt help that I worked legs 15 minutes before (w/ squats).

Off day today....6 hours lecture plus 6 hours of lab will do that.

Wednesday...probably arms/abs/swim/football practice.

[JDaveG]

Re: supplements, I don't use them anymore.  If your diet is garbage, they won't help. If your diet is good, they can be effective.

FWIW, I love creatine as a supplement, and I stacked BSN's NoXplode with Cellmass once and it was very good.  If I did it again, I'd just use the Cellmass, because I don't need the caffeine in NoXplode. 

[ki45toryu]

Supplements are fine and dandy...but are largely useless, expensive garbage. Illegal 'roids are effective at building muscle/losing bodyfat but are illegal and very deleterious to your body...no matter what any juiced up guys will tell you.

The common combo of supplements are creatine phosphate w/ some sort of sugar based loading nutrient, protein powder, and multi vitamins.

I take glucosamine w/ MSM, flax seed oil high in omega 3 fatty acids, and zinc magnesium aspartate. I also take protein powder that has extra BCAA's and glutamine. I find these combos are more then enough for me...and I get to save money and negative body weight by not using creatine.

[ty down]

I do have a serious question, On most days I cut a line of brush/thick/ or sometimes it's just overgrown clearcut. The line is approx. 3' wide by knee high. I know it sounds redneckish if that's a word. But I will say it's usually around about 3500 foot, Which I walk,this line three times a day. On an average of twice a week. I do eat a good breakfast and lunch when times allow.Sometimes it's vienna sausage for lunch! But the point is Do I still need too exercise after that, or in between?

[tipp78]

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I do have a serious question, On most days I cut a line of brush/thick/ or sometimes it's just overgrown clearcut. The line is approx. 3' wide by knee high. I know it sounds redneckish if that's a word. But I will say it's usually around about 3500 foot, Which I walk,this line three times a day. On an average of twice a week. I do eat a good breakfast and lunch when times allow.Sometimes it's vienna sausage for lunch! But the point is Do I still need too exercise after that, or in between?

I'm no excercise expert but I can tell you it does depend on what type of body you have, and what kind of food your taking in. If you dont feel your getting enough excercise, go run or go swim or something. And the most obvious thing, if your overweight then yes you probably need to excercise more:P but from the amount of work you do, i doubt thats a problem.

[ty down]

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I do have a serious question, On most days I cut a line of brush/thick/ or sometimes it's just overgrown clearcut. The line is approx. 3' wide by knee high. I know it sounds redneckish if that's a word. But I will say it's usually around about 3500 foot, Which I walk,this line three times a day. On an average of twice a week. I do eat a good breakfast and lunch when times allow.Sometimes it's vienna sausage for lunch! But the point is Do I still need too exercise after that, or in between?

I'm no excercise expert but I can tell you it does depend on what type of body you have, and what kind of food your taking in. If you dont feel your getting enough excercise, go run or go swim or something. And the most obvious thing, if your overweight then yes you probably need to excercise more:P but from the amount of work you do, i doubt thats a problem.

Tipp thanks,
My height is about 6'
weight is around 180lbs

I just wonder if I might not need too do more.
My intake " I don't count cals"
But it's 1 scrambled 2 bacon and grits or hashbrowns in the morn,
And depends on the work, I'm more likely to eat something fried.
Along with 1 starch and 1 green.Maybe a salad if I feel right! Hungry.

[ki45toryu]

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ty down (12/4/2007)

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I do have a serious question, On most days I cut a line of brush/thick/ or sometimes it's just overgrown clearcut. The line is approx. 3' wide by knee high. I know it sounds redneckish if that's a word. But I will say it's usually around about 3500 foot, Which I walk,this line three times a day. On an average of twice a week. I do eat a good breakfast and lunch when times allow.Sometimes it's vienna sausage for lunch! But the point is Do I still need too exercise after that, or in between?

You gotta do something about the Vienna sausage for lunch. It is probably one of the worst foods you can eat...ever. It is only topped by arsenic and straight up botulism.

The sheer amount of exercise you do is up to you....and there are few people in this world that exercise too much(there are out there though...they are called tri-athletes).

Working out twice a week on top of your work routine would be of great benefit to you, if not for a body fat composition reason, then for the benefits to your cardiovascular system, overall systemic circulation, brain function, and the bodies' improvements in metabolic efficiency.

[JDaveG]

40 minutes on the elliptical, 2 sets pullups/dips. 3.29 miles, 460 calories burned on the elliptical. Pullups are feeling better lately, probably because I've been doing 1 set before bed every night.

Mods, can we please pin this thread?