[WeakNoodleArmMattRyan]

After 7 games, both teams are 4-3, but look at the stats:

Matt Ryan- 1,649 12 TD, 9 INT, QB Rating of 82.4, Completion Percetage of 59.7.

Joe Flacco - 1,849 12 TD, 5 INT, QB Rating of 95.6, Completion Percentage of 66.0.

Kinda neck to neck, but Flacco is playing much better then Matt Ryan so far this year.

[supremedarius]

Give Ryan Cameron and he would do the same......

[crankdatfalcon]

supremedarius, on 03 November 2009 - 08:38 AM, said:

Give Ryan Cameron and he would do the same......

ryan cameron from v103?????

[WeakNoodleArmMattRyan]

^^^^^^ I think he meant Cam Cameron. SMH, its too early huh bro?

[supremedarius]

Cam Cameron

[crankdatfalcon]

RyanVickFan, on 03 November 2009 - 08:40 AM, said:

^^^^^^ I think he meant Cam Cameron. SMH, its too early huh bro?

lol, yea aint had my super drank yet..

[sourdiesal]

crankdatfalcon, on 03 November 2009 - 08:39 AM, said:

ryan cameron from v103?????

If Frank Ski was our special teams coach Elam woulda made those FG's last night..

[poutlipper]

RyanVickFan, on 03 November 2009 - 08:31 AM, said:

After 7 games, both teams are 4-3, but look at the stats:

Matt Ryan- 1,649 12 TD, 9 INT, QB Rating of 82.4, Completion Percetage of 59.7.

Joe Flacco - 1,849 12 TD, 5 INT, QB Rating of 95.6, Completion Percentage of 66.0.

Kinda neck to neck, but Flacco is playing much better then Matt Ryan so far this year.

Why compare after 7 games? Because it's convenient now? The fact is, Baltimore has the #10 rushing offense in the league, Atlanta the #17. Baltimore has the #13 defense in the league, Atlanta the #29. I mean, all things considering, you would think since the Raven's are performing so much better, that Flacco's stats would be far superior... but that's just not the case.

[muskokas finest]

Not much of a debate right now

[WeakNoodleArmMattRyan]

poutlipper, on 03 November 2009 - 01:46 PM, said:

Why compare after 7 games? Because it's convenient now? The fact is, Baltimore has the #10 rushing offense in the league, Atlanta the #17. Baltimore has the #13 defense in the league, Atlanta the #29. I mean, all things considering, you would think since the Raven's are performing so much better, that Flacco's stats would be far superior... but that's just not the case.

Matt Ryan has better WR's, RBs, TEs, IF Joe had our WRs, RBs, and TEs i too think Flaccos stats would be far superior than of Matts.

[BlacksburgHokie]

Still don't understand why it matters; two different QB's, two different teams, two different situations.

Unless there just is some arbitrary need to declare something as "best" at all times...

[poutlipper]

RyanVickFan, on 03 November 2009 - 08:55 AM, said:

Matt Ryan has better WR's, RBs, TEs, IF Joe had our WRs, RBs, and TEs i too think Flaccos stats would be far superior than of Matts.

WR's?

Matt Ryan has Roddy, Flacco has Mason. I would take Clayton over Jenkins, Finneran, or Booker also.

I'll concede Gonzalez over Heap.

Turner i'd agree is better than Rice. BUT.... our run game in general has failed to get going, because our offensive line is not as good as advertised. It's showing now. The Ravens offensive line is good, and it is showing. I love how people try to act like Flacco has nothing but JUCO scrubs on his team. Mason is a legit receiver, dude has had SEVERAL 1,000 yard seasons. Ray Rice, Willis McGahee, they're as good a RB duo in the NFL right now.

[obmann]

I really like the arm of Flacco. He throws one of the nicest deep balls in this leauge. Very accurate. Great throw!

But I like also a lot of things by Matty. He goes to through his progressions. He has good pocket awareness. And there is the huge difference.

Pocket. The Ravens are really build in the trenches. Their O-Line is much more better than the falcons o-line.

And then there is the LT. They drafted again a good tackle with Oher.

Last night Sam Baker played like he was described by a lot of scouts.
He was not a franchise left tackle. He got abused by Smith and this destroyed the timing.
Ryan rushed his throw and this is a major concern.

Perhaps Baker will get moved to RT in the future. Because the falcons need to acquire a LT.

[falconfiend82]

BlacksburgHokie, on 03 November 2009 - 08:58 AM, said:

Still don't understand why it matters; two different QB's, two different teams, two different situations.

Unless there just is some arbitrary need to declare something as "best" at all times...

Exactly!!! They are both good, they both have plenty of room to improve, one doesn't have to be better than the other just based on their stats.

[Don Solo]

RyanVickFan, on 03 November 2009 - 08:31 AM, said:

After 7 games, both teams are 4-3, but look at the stats:

Matt Ryan- 1,649 12 TD, 9 INT, QB Rating of 82.4, Completion Percetage of 59.7.

Joe Flacco - 1,849 12 TD, 5 INT, QB Rating of 95.6, Completion Percentage of 66.0.

Kinda neck to neck, but Flacco is playing much better then Matt Ryan so far this year.

No offense.....but who cares?? The QB of the team that I support is Matt Ryan and that isn't going to change in the near future. I could give a rat's arse about the QB of any other team.

[sourdiesal]

obmann, on 03 November 2009 - 09:05 AM, said:

I really like the arm of Flacco. He throws one of the nicest deep balls in this leauge. Very accurate. Great throw!

Me too.. The guy has a great NFL arm..

[JDaveG]

Flacco's playing better than Ryan right now, and I'd still take Ryan over him any day of the week. Let's look at both after 10 years and I guarantee Ryan will be head and shoulders above Flacco for his career.

[goatehall]

obmann, on 03 November 2009 - 08:05 AM, said:

I really like the arm of Flacco. He throws one of the nicest deep balls in this leauge. Very accurate. Great throw!

But I like also a lot of things by Matty. He goes to through his progressions. He has good pocket awareness. And there is the huge difference.

Pocket. The Ravens are really build in the trenches. Their O-Line is much more better than the falcons o-line.

And then there is the LT. They drafted again a good tackle with Oher.

Last night Sam Baker played like he was described by a lot of scouts.
He was not a franchise left tackle. He got abused by Smith and this destroyed the timing.
Ryan rushed his throw and this is a major concern.

Perhaps Baker will get moved to RT in the future. Because the falcons need to acquire a LT.

Ryan has been sacked 9 times and Flacco has been sacked 14 times. Ryan went 150+ snaps without a sack. Not sure how you can say the Ravens line is better than the Falcons based on those stats.

[obmann]

goatehall, on 03 November 2009 - 03:45 PM, said:

Ryan has been sacked 9 times and Flacco has been sacked 14 times. Ryan went 150+ snaps without a sack. Not sure how you can say the Ravens line is better than the Falcons based on those stats.

Because I am watching football games instead of watching stats. Ryan has much better pocket awareness and is more mobile than Flacco. And he has a fast release and he forces his throws, because he does not want to get sacked. He threws the ball out of bounds, too.

Take your time. Watching four games of the falcons(for example Ravens at Pats, Falcons at Pats)

Then you can compare the stats with your impressions. Ravens O-line is much better than the falcons o-line.

This post has been edited by obmann: 03 November 2009 - 10:52 AM

[sourdiesal]

JDaveG, on 03 November 2009 - 10:29 AM, said:

Flacco's playing better than Ryan right now, and I'd still take Ryan over him any day of the week. Let's look at both after 10 years and I guarantee Ryan will be head and shoulders above Flacco for his career.

I hope you're right about that last sentence. But what exactly are you basing that on?