[RI Falcon]

The announcers were talking about Saints fans and the connection between the team and the fans after Hurricane Katrina and all that. I understand, there were some Saints fans before Katrina and during. And I still don't know if i believe the story about the reverend saying "we have no food, we have no water, but at least we have the saints" If thats true, than wow that is really something.. however, does anyone remember the fact that those seats were EMPTY for this team? Seriously, the fan support and turnout was so low that they were most likely going to have to move elsewhere. All of a sudden, disaster, tragedy, heart warming story about their first year back in new orleans, leads to playoffs. Suddenly, EVERYONE in the country is a saints fans and those seats are sold out for every single game. suddenly, this team has apparently had amazing support throughout the years and all that.. im sorry but i think 95% of saints fans are bandwagon fans.. anyone agree?? I realize we've probably picked up a few bandwagon fans along the way as well that left after that 2007 season but nothing compared to the saints. I apologize for venting :lol:

[RI Falcon]

feel kinda stupid.. didn't realize you couldn't put emoticons in titles.. oh well.

[RI Falcon]

apparently no one feels the same way i do haha

[V Chip]

RI Falcon, on 04 November 2009 - 09:26 AM, said:

does anyone remember the fact that those seats were EMPTY for this team? Seriously, the fan support and turnout was so low that they were most likely going to have to move elsewhere. All of a sudden, disaster, tragedy, heart warming story about their first year back in new orleans, leads to playoffs.

You're incorrect about the fan support. Fan support has always been good -- even in the 3-13 Ditka years the Saints still had sellouts. Seats weren't empty except in the 2005 year when they played no home games ("home" games were in Baton Rouge or San Antonio or New Jersey). Benson wasn't threatening to move the team because of lack of fan support, he was threatening to move the team in order to get a new stadium to make more money from suites and PSLs, even though he had a sweetheart deal where the State paid him guaranteed money to stay.

This post has been edited by V Chip: 04 November 2009 - 10:06 AM

[Statick]

When they did anything regarding the Saints or their fans, I just muted the TV.

[w-h-ë-ë-l-ø]

I turned off the ESPN coverage and listened to DaveFM after the first few minutes. I got sick of them talking about the Saints and Brees even in the middle of one of our long scoring drives.

They can have their garbage city with thier poverty and filth and thier lame team with the gay QB and pansy coach. Yeah for them.

[bradael]

The Saints had a sellout streak going back a long ways before Katrina. The national media just put the Saints into the moving to Los Angeles consideration because they didn't think the city could support a professional team after the hurricane. After signing Drew Brees the sold out the year on season tickets alone.

This post has been edited by bradael: 04 November 2009 - 10:11 AM

[rounz]

w-h-ë-ë-l-ø, on 04 November 2009 - 11:10 AM, said:

I turned off the ESPN coverage and listened to DaveFM

Me too.

And it was refreshing to listen to announcers who REALLY know the team and could give very good insight and analysis

[Voice of Reason]

bradael, on 04 November 2009 - 10:11 AM, said:

The Saints had a sellout streak going back a long ways before Katrina. The national media just put the Saints into the moving to Los Angeles consideration because they didn't think the city could support a professional team after the hurricane. After signing Drew Brees the sold out the year on season tickets alone.

This is laughable. The only reason Saints had "sellouts" was because they forced out of town fans, opposing teams' fans if you will, to buy tickets to several games.

For instance, if you were from GA and tried to buy tickets to a Saints/Falcons game, if they saw your area code was from out of town (404, 770, etc) they would only sell you a ticket in a multi-game package which included another team that no one wanted to see play (like Saints/Houston or Saints/Seahawks).

In other words, they would get two tickets sold for every one out of towner wanting to attend a game. It was and still is a ploy to sell tickets to games that no one wanted to see.

But to imply that these "sellouts" were due to Saints fan support is simply a lie.

Furthermore, there was a ton of talk BEFORE Katrina about Benson moving the team to San Antonio permanently. Appearantly, that is where he owns a bunch of car dealerships or something. You don't believe me? Well how else would an out-of-town, hate the Saints and everything about them, diehard Falcons fan like myself know anything about the Saint's owner's businesses if it wasn't something that was discussed?

This post has been edited by Voice of Reason: 04 November 2009 - 05:03 PM

[DeathFromAbove]

It was in the NOLA paper yesterday that I bought, the "recovery czar" they hired, who quit, says the people of New Orleans didn't want to do anything to help the city recover, just wanted everything handed to them. And that the racial divisiveness in the city is more entrenched than anywhere he's ever seen...

[GetUSom3]

I thought Gruden was a Saints Announcer! He was so busy kissing Bree's butt I thought NO was gonna get called for 12 men on the field on every play. I moved out of Atlanta last year so I cannot mute the TV announcers. Sad I cannot hear the home guys without paying the NFL.

[V Chip]

Voice of Reason, on 04 November 2009 - 11:38 AM, said:

This is laughable. The only reason Saints had "sellouts" was because they forced out of town fans, opposing teams' fans if you will, to buy tickets to several games.

For instance, if you were from GA and tried to buy tickets to a Saints/Falcons game, if they saw your area code was from out of town (404, 770, etc) they would only sell you a ticket in a multi-game package which included another team that no one wanted to see play (like Saints/Houston or Saints/Seahawks).

In other words, they would get two tickets sold for every one out of towner wanting to attend a game. It was and still is a ploy to sell tickets to games that no one wanted to see.

But to imply that these "sellouts" were due to Saints fan support is simply a lie.

Furthermore, there was a ton of talk BEFORE Katrina about Benson moving the team to San Antonio permemantly. Appearantly, that is where he owns a bunch of car dealerships or something. You don't believe me? Well how else would an out-of-town, hate the Saints and everything about them, diehard Falcons fan like myself know anything about the Saint's owner's businesses if it wasn't something that was discussed?

Completely not true on the former. You can buy tickets from multiple outlets, not just the Saints ticket office -- Ticketmaster wouldn't do tickets that way. Besides, that isn't true about requiring out of town people to buy multi-game packages. Every team tries to do multi-game packages, but it is done for ALL people, not just people from opposing team area codes. That's ridiculous. :wacko:

But look at attendance if you don't believe. If sellouts were because people from out of town had to buy extra tickets, then attendance should be a lot less than capacity. It wasn't.

And yes, there was a little talk about the Saints relocating to San Antonio (some) and Los Angeles (a lot more). Again, that was because Benson wanted a new stadium, not because there wasn't fan support. It was never a serious discussion and oddly enough it only came up when contracts were due to be renegotiated...

[bradael]

Voice of Reason, on 04 November 2009 - 04:38 PM, said:

This is laughable. The only reason Saints had "sellouts" was because they forced out of town fans, opposing teams' fans if you will, to buy tickets to several games.

For instance, if you were from GA and tried to buy tickets to a Saints/Falcons game, if they saw your area code was from out of town (404, 770, etc) they would only sell you a ticket in a multi-game package which included another team that no one wanted to see play (like Saints/Houston or Saints/Seahawks).

In other words, they would get two tickets sold for every one out of towner wanting to attend a game. It was and still is a ploy to sell tickets to games that no one wanted to see.

But to imply that these "sellouts" were due to Saints fan support is simply a lie.

Furthermore, there was a ton of talk BEFORE Katrina about Benson moving the team to San Antonio permemantly. Appearantly, that is where he owns a bunch of car dealerships or something. You don't believe me? Well how else would an out-of-town, hate the Saints and everything about them, diehard Falcons fan like myself know anything about the Saint's owner's businesses if it wasn't something that was discussed?

All teams do this to prevent a large amount of division fans to be in their team's stadium. The sellouts don't come from other team's fans.

And the talk about moving to San Antonio happened only after Katrina, when they had several "home" games there that year, and also had "home" games in Baton Rouge and New York. There's also a thing called leverage in negotiations. The Saints' lease was nearly up and they were trying to get a better deal from the State. They weren't going anywhere. But most of the talk about moving to Los Angeles was just the national media's Favrefest about getting a team to a gigantic market.

This post has been edited by bradael: 04 November 2009 - 12:42 PM

[REV.2000]

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT. THEY'RE 7-0. THEY'RE THE FILL GOOD STORY
OF THE NFL. OUR GLORY DAYS ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

[MorganGrafixx]

GetUSom3, on 04 November 2009 - 12:13 PM, said:

I thought Gruden was a Saints Announcer! He was so busy kissing Bree's butt I thought NO was gonna get called for 12 men on the field on every play. I moved out of Atlanta last year so I cannot mute the TV announcers. Sad I cannot hear the home guys without paying the NFL.

Not 100% on this one, but I think you can PIRATED VIDEO IS ILLEGAL the audoi over the internet from the Atlanta station "Dave FM" (92.9). Might be another option for you.

[BlacksburgHokie]

If I remember correctly, their owner was making some serious noise about wanting a new stadium which the city was unwilling to provide before Katrina happened. Hard to predict what would have happened if Katrina never occurred, but the Saints may well have moved somewhere else the way things were headed...

[Ryan too White]

The Saints have the Katrina backstory going for them, just like we have the Mike Vick one. Pretty much every NFL team has a "storyline" that the announcers harp on. In this case, we heard more about the NO fans because the game was in the Superdome, and because the Saints are a very popular team right now.

To be honest, I'm more surprised we didn't hear about the GB - MIN game during our broadcast.

[Goal Line D]

Good grief!

WHO CARES about the Saints and their fans!!!!!

We gave them a he** of a game in their place so I'm looking forward to round 2 in ours.

As Falcon faithful lets just concern ourselves with things that are related to OUR team.

;)

This post has been edited by Goal Line D: 04 November 2009 - 01:13 PM

[Saintdogg]

w-h-ë-ë-l-ø, on 04 November 2009 - 10:10 AM, said:

I turned off the ESPN coverage and listened to DaveFM after the first few minutes. I got sick of them talking about the Saints and Brees even in the middle of one of our long scoring drives.

They can have their garbage city with thier poverty and filth and thier lame team with the gay QB and pansy coach. Yeah for them.

Garbage city? No sir...that would be ATL according to Forbes...

My link

Nothing but blue skies, Palm trees, and many waters teaming with healthy fish in NOLA these days.

Voice of Reason, on 04 November 2009 - 11:38 AM, said:

This is laughable. The only reason Saints had "sellouts" was because they forced out of town fans, opposing teams' fans if you will, to buy tickets to several games.

For instance, if you were from GA and tried to buy tickets to a Saints/Falcons game, if they saw your area code was from out of town (404, 770, etc) they would only sell you a ticket in a multi-game package which included another team that no one wanted to see play (like Saints/Houston or Saints/Seahawks).

In other words, they would get two tickets sold for every one out of towner wanting to attend a game. It was and still is a ploy to sell tickets to games that no one wanted to see.

But to imply that these "sellouts" were due to Saints fan support is simply a lie.

Furthermore, there was a ton of talk BEFORE Katrina about Benson moving the team to San Antonio permemantly. Appearantly, that is where he owns a bunch of car dealerships or something. You don't believe me? Well how else would an out-of-town, hate the Saints and everything about them, diehard Falcons fan like myself know anything about the Saint's owner's businesses if it wasn't something that was discussed?

No moron. The Saints fan base has ALWAYS been so strong, that I recall the Falcons must have been sick of the cheap seats being filled with Saints fans, so they decided we had to buy these mini-packages to see the game in ATL. Only stands to reason that the Saints would then implemement the same, even though Falcon fans don't travel as well.

How does your filthy foot taste?

Also, the Superdome is also being renovated to keep Benson's and the NFL's mouth shut. That how the city got it's 10th Supre-Bowl awarded for 2013.

This post has been edited by Saintdogg: 04 November 2009 - 01:25 PM

[Statick]

And here we go again with the "my city is better than your city" crap... :rolleyes:

Move on, people.