[Ice1974]

what the heck is up with that, and the Redskins D is pretty good, meaning Campbell is getting plenty of opps to make things happen
also... Campbell is the 4th most sacked QB in the league, with 20 sacks, if we dont get pressure this week from the front 4, something is seriously wrong,

[UnrealFalcon]

the mighty defenses of the Rams, Bucs, Lions, Chiefs and carolina cannot contain his Beast-iness

[slamee101]

More evidence than many stats are meaningless and people give them too much stock.

[Finally]

This is a great idea. Give the vick trolls additional fodder. Thanks.

Big Ben had a worse qb rating than Ryan last year and he won it all.

[crankdatfalcon]

ummmm, who cares..QB ratings dont win games..

[Ice1974]

you know this point thing really does suck, really?? I was just questioning it, and someone gave me a -1
and I'm a Ryan nut hugger
I was just amazed when I saw this, because Campbell hasnt looked to good this season
Ryan will finish with a higher rating, just right now Campbell is higher

[Ryan too White]

And how many yards has he thrown for? TDs?

Once you learn how QB rating is calculated, you quickly realize how overemphasized it is.

15 18 83.3 125 6.9 1 0 114.1

25 33 75.8 308 9.3 2 1 111.7


The first is Vince Young against the Jaguars, the second is Drew Brees against us. Which is the better stat line?

[Finally]

Ice1974, on 04 November 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:

you know this point thing really does suck, really?? I was just questioning it, and someone gave me a -1
and I'm a Ryan nut hugger
I was just amazed when I saw this, because Campbell hasnt looked to good this season
Ryan will finish with a higher rating, just right now Campbell is higher

Someone has good taste in negative voting. Why question it when you agree that Ryan will finish higher? I don't understand why you new guys are so thread starting happy all the time. We have a board full of trolls saying Ryan is basically Harrington and you start a pointless thread like this one?

[crankdatfalcon]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

Someone has good taste in negative voting. Why question it when you agree that Ryan will finish higher? I don't understand why you new guys are so thread starting happy all the time. We have a board full of trolls saying Ryan is basically Harrington and you start a pointless thread like this one?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[aerosmith67]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

Someone has good taste in negative voting. Why question it when you agree that Ryan will finish higher? I don't understand why you new guys are so thread starting happy all the time. We have a board full of trolls saying Ryan is basically Harrington and you start a pointless thread like this one?

It would be nice to have a waiting period of at least a certain number of posts or time before new members can start threads. Other messages boards have that feature, I've never understood why we don't .

[Ice1974]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

Someone has good taste in negative voting. Why question it when you agree that Ryan will finish higher? I don't understand why you new guys are so thread starting happy all the time. We have a board full of trolls saying Ryan is basically Harrington and you start a pointless thread like this one?

ohhh I'm so sorry sir, I didnt know I wasnt allowed to question something after 7 games, next time I will ask you to get permission, because Im sure you have never questioned something in your 6,000 + posts on these boards, which we already knew the answer to

Was I saying Campbell was the better QB? NO
Was I saying I would rather have Campbell over Ryan? NO
Was it an anti-Ryan post? NO

I was just stating a fact because Campbell hasnt looked impressive and has been under pressure alot

I even started the thread, "What the heck is up with that"
meaning I couldnt believe it when I saw it
so... have a nice day

[Ice1974]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

Someone has good taste in negative voting. Why question it when you agree that Ryan will finish higher? I don't understand why you new guys are so thread starting happy all the time. We have a board full of trolls saying Ryan is basically Harrington and you start a pointless thread like this one?

ohh and I'm not a new guy
Ive been on these boards since 98 when it was just Shiney McShine and myself, Ive just had different names and lost all my posts in the board conversion(twice)
so Im sorry if I dont have as many posts as you the almighty, I'll see if i can start more worthless topics and reach 6,000+ posts

[Finally]

Ice1974, on 04 November 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

ohhh I'm so sorry sir, I didnt know I wasnt allowed to question something after 7 games,

Now you know.

Quote

next time I will ask you to get permission,

No. In advance.

[PHATRYAN]

Ice1974, on 04 November 2009 - 03:27 PM, said:

ohhh I'm so sorry sir, I didnt know I wasnt allowed to question something after 7 games, next time I will ask you to get permission, because Im sure you have never questioned something in your 6,000 + posts on these boards, which we already knew the answer to

Was I saying Campbell was the better QB? NO
Was I saying I would rather have Campbell over Ryan? NO
Was it an anti-Ryan post? NO

I was just stating a fact because Campbell hasnt looked impressive and has been under pressure alot

I even started the thread, "What the heck is up with that"
meaning I couldnt believe it when I saw it
so... have a nice day

You can't say anything negative on here about Ryan, everyone is over protecive.

TD/INT ratio matters, Ryan is lacking signifigantly in that one....ooppps, I said something negative

[ColtsSeahawks]

Campbell is only good on paper... He cares more about his stats then he does winning games so you cant compare the two... Watch total access and they all say the exact same thing... He rarely throws deep because he is affraid of it getting picked off and when he does throw deep the very odd time its horrible.. He is not accurate at all, and the only passes he is decent at are quick 5 yard passes. That is why he never averages more then 200 yrds per game.

Also Washington has played against some bad defensive teams this year which makes him look better then he really is.

They played against St Louis, Detroit, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay... Then when they actually played a decent team like Philly, the Giants, and Carolina he sucked horribly and they lost.

[Ice1974]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:32 PM, said:

Now you know.





No. In advance.

dont live up to your self imposed title too much Jerk

[Finally]

Ice1974, on 04 November 2009 - 03:29 PM, said:

ohh and I'm not a new guy
Ive been on these boards since 98 when it was just Shiney McShine and myself, Ive just had different names and lost all my posts in the board conversion(twice)
so Im sorry if I dont have as many posts as you the almighty, I'll see if i can start more worthless topics and reach 6,000+ posts

It is amazing how often someone says that. I must be the only person who has not been here since the beginning of time. :rolleyes:

[Ice1974]

ColtsSeahawks, on 04 November 2009 - 03:33 PM, said:

Campbell is only good on paper... He cares more about his stats then he does winning games so you cant compare the two... Watch total access and they all say the exact same thing... He rarely throws deep because he is affraid of it getting picked off and when he does throw deep the very odd time its horrible.. He is not accurate at all, and the only passes he is decent at are quick 5 yard passes. That is why he never averages more then 200 yrds per game.

Also Washington has played against some bad defensive teams this year which makes him look better then he really is.

They played against St Louis, Detroit, Kansas City, and Tampa Bay... Then when they actually played a decent team like Philly, the Giants, and Carolina he sucked horribly and they lost.

FINALLY, a nice constructive response that doesnt agree with me, but doesnt flame me, and points out some good views
thank you... +1

[Ice1974]

Finally, on 04 November 2009 - 03:37 PM, said:

It is amazing how often someone says that. I must be the only person who has not been here since the beginning of time. :rolleyes:

ans whens the beginning of time??
December 9th 2008??
boy you've been a member forever a whole whopping 11 months

[Finally]

Ice1974, on 04 November 2009 - 03:39 PM, said:

ans whens the beginning of time??
December 9th 2008??
boy you've been a member forever a whole whopping 11 months

That was my point. Try reading it again. :rolleyes: