[schwarzenegger321]

Rev, great post. I had an account before the vick debacle but gave it up because the board went nuts. I see a lot of the same things now. Not as bad as they were, but some of these posters seem to have an agenda.

Maybe limiting the number of post one can create is a way to go. I was also thinking, is there a way people could be rated and when they get a certain rating they get a symbol or something by their screen name. I understand that we have a +/- rating system and I know that you have the number of posts you have made. But, the number of post say nothing about the quality of the posts. If lets say it takes 50 positive ratings to get a little falcon symbol or something by your name people would know that you are not going to post a bunch of garbage even if you have 5000 posts. I personally would just ignore people that don't have the symbol. It would just be a way to segragate the serious fans while not imparing anyone from joining or posting. If someone joins and post garbage their post would quickly move to the 10th or higher page and people would not have to look at it.

Just a thought.

[Flyin' In DC]

friar_bones, on 05 November 2009 - 01:54 PM, said:

Man. How come I cannot +1 this? :huh:

I gave you a plus 1 just for mentioning. SOmeone should get one for this post

[Flyin' In DC]

Wow great post. There are way to many people here that can see the forest for the trees. And probably see this and say this is football forum why are you talking about trees?

Great you get pissed when the Falcons lose I do too. But this team is finally headed in the right direction and that does not happen overnight.

I love this team and will be here until I am no longer able.

[falconidae]

Rev, completely agree that the negative jerks are completely out of hand.
On occasion, after games, I'll spend 10-15 minutes bumping every real thread as fast as I can. For a few moments, they'll be nothing but real threads on the first page. If a group of posters would do that for every game, the trolls would get bored.

I also don't respond to most of them except to leave a negative number on the original post; the one's I do respond to, I pull up old posts from the troll to make my point, they usually contradict themselves repeatedly.

One suggestion I would make is if someone accumulates some number of negative points in a day, they automatically get posting privileges revoked for a day or two. If you get say, 50 negatives, in a 24 hour period, you get locked out of the system for 24-48 hours. That would allow us to police ourselves. Personally, I'd like to see the limit at 25; if you've ticked that many people off, you're probably trolling.

That shouldn't be too hard to do from a technical viewpoint, you could even set it up so that the first offense is -50 point, and the second is -25, then -5 for the third. Then have the counter reset after a period of time.

[vafalconfan]

Well said and I love the Samuel L Jackson quote.

Here's my take; It's just kids that's all. Young do nothings who play video games all day. They have not lived through the Henning, Campbell, Glanville regimes. They canot possibly understand how it used to be when the Smith's ran the show.

I agree however with the main theme here. True fans need to rise up! And I'm talking about FALCON fans.

[Finally]

There are a few problems as I see it.

1) The posters here spend way too much time trying to correct trolls or defend players to trolls. You are making things worse. Call the troll an idiot and send them on their way. Do not post stats or attempt to make reasonable arguments because a) the troll doesn't care and b.) you are keeping a negative thread around longer than it should. It is so simple yet you people make the same mistake over and over again. You can't win an war of opinions with someone who will only focus on the negatives.

2) The organization has made a mistake. A 24 hour rule doesn't prevent a poster from sharing an opinion but without it, it makes it harder for the regulars to share their opinions. You are letting trolls have the run of the place and it makes the good posters want to stay away. I may not be a "good" poster but I won't touch this place during a game or after usually until the next day. No way. Not because I let the trolls win but because even if I did want to start a thread it would be buried immediately.

3) It should be clear to us by now that there are no restrictions to starting threads as long as they are in the ballpark of TATF even if it is a duplicate. If the mods can't help us when the trolls come to play we should just spam our own board. Start tons of threads about positive things and bury the trolls. If it seems more positive the good fans will want to play more and it makes it harder for the trolls to get a foothold.

This post has been edited by Finally: 05 November 2009 - 10:45 AM

[natedogg1109]

The true fans are the ones that fill the dome or hudle around the radio or tv for 3 hours on sunday. Everyone else on the boards are just those that catch the highlites and come here after every loss to stir the pot becuase it is their only means of entertainment.

[Sun Tzu 7]

Great post Rev.

Speaking for myself... I get very emotional after loses and I try to stay away from the board right after one.

Luckily I've managed to avoid saying anything too negative although I've been pretty critical of Grimes... but he played well in the Saints game so I'll give it a rest for now.

But sometimes venting on the boards is a way to deal with the frustration... I've done it in the past. You're going to have your trolls but when you never have back to back winning seasons you're also going to have part of the fan bases that will overreact.

We need a win this weekend and things will be back to normal.

[DBFever2]

Well put Rev, if other posters would so clearly state their point on this issue maybe the message wouldn't get confused and lead to so called "whining". Rants usually end up that way, but this is putting it better and I agree. You may have to do what I've now started doing Rev, and that's wait a day or two after a loss b4 you visit. By then, most of the really bad crybabies have exhausted their energy.

[LADBABY]

Rev_Hal, on 05 November 2009 - 01:59 PM, said:

That call was made by the Falcons organization. The position of the team is that we welcom all comers, especially those from opposing teams. As long as the COC is not violated, all are welcome.

But the garbage I'm talking about is from long time posters.

Some people choose to believe in the negative part of
reality and ignore the positive of reality. We have a
very good team. Turner is not broken, Matt Ryan is not
going through a sophomore slump and then become mediocre.
We are on the edge of something very special. I am not
sure any other team than the Saints would have handle us
Monday night. I seriously doubt that they would have.
It requires some faith and some people just don't have
any.

[BankerBird™]

friar_bones, on 05 November 2009 - 09:04 AM, said:

:lol:
Naw, Bankerbird has a +2 right now.

A +2? Is that all?! :P

[redwolfcfc]

Rev_Hal, on 05 November 2009 - 08:51 AM, said:

Man, we really need a win this week. Not so much for the team, but for old Rev. I really can't stand this place after a loss - even one where we played a great game against great team in their house. This place has always been negative, but the past week had been as bad as this place has ever been (sans the Vick season).

I have 1 question for you people who are trashing the team this week - what the heck is the matter with you??? Why are you even here? This is a young team on the rise. We have more talent now than we have had in a decade. We have young players that are going to be stars for a long time. We are competitive and last time I checked, WE HAD A WINNING RECORD!!!!

But I come here are there are 1000 garbage threads like http://life.atlantaf...-playoff-bound/. Look at the last 20 years folks and tell me how many 10-6 and 9-7 teams have made the playoffs. Please - someone look it up for me (I'm swamped at work today;)). We are out "out of it" at all. We are not horrible, and this is not the worst season in history.

It's like many of you just WANT this team to lose. You can't stand that we are competitve. It's like you want to be depressed. You won't be happy until the team is 16-0 and go undefeated in the playoffs, and you still probably would not be happy then. You cling to the past losing season and want to project it on to this team right now.

ENOUGH!!!!!!! Stop it! In the spirit of Samuel L. Jackson, "I have had it with these ****** ******* whiners on this ****** ******* board!!". If you do not want to be a part of the paradyme shift going on with this franchise, the LEAVE. If you don't want to be a part of watching this team compete on a yearly basis, the GET OUT OF HERE! This is the greatest time to be a Falcons fan in 43 years. If you can't see that, then take your garbage elsewhere.

It is fine to talk about the negatives of the team and have discussions of what we do wrong and where we should improve. Having discussions that are critical of the Falcons is our right and our obligation. But this board has been taken over by nonsense garbage about how this team, it's star players, and the entire organization are horrible. If you truly believe that, then you don't belong here.

For the group of loyal fans that understand what is happening in this city, this is my call to arms. TAKE BACK OUR MESSAGE BOARD! Talk about the positives and negatives in contructive way. Put the garbage creators in their place! We can never get rid of the people that make diridulous posts, but we can show each other and the football nation that this is an intelligent fan base with loyal and supporting fans.

To the true fans - show your true Falcons colors!!!!!!!!!!!

/soapbox

Well Said...This should be bumped early and often.

[nobkowski]

Way to go Rev. The only thing better coming from you other than this thread, would be some of your sausage. :)

diridulous - I like that lol.

[UnrealFalcon]

yes..PLEASE get a 48 hour wait till the new member is accepted and 100 POSTS MINIMUM to start a thread. AND 4 threads a day.

PLEASE

[Rev_Hal]

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[Rev_Hal]

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diridulous - I like that lol.

[nobkowski]

Rev_Hal, on 05 November 2009 - 11:15 AM, said:

I have a talent for making up new words." Douchocity" is actually copyrited. :)

:lol: LOL :lol: LOL :lol: LOL

[falcons faithful]

lucifersam, on 05 November 2009 - 08:57 AM, said:

It's real simple and as a mod you should fully realize this.

This message board is setup so ANYONE with any FREE email account can sign up and post here in under 5 mins.
When you have those conditions you are simply asking for a ton of trolling, spam, and non sense like all the negativity we get after a loss.

The noise to good post ratio would be ALOT better if new users had to wait 48 hrs to post and new users had to have 100 posts to create a new thread.

These are pretty simple things that can be put in place that would seriously reduce the amount of spastic noise we get all the time and it would not require any additional work from the mods.

Why can't something like that be done? Why has this issue been ignored so long?

Also for a start why aren't the user ratings being enforced? If a person has a -200 rating they should probably either be banned or suspended for a short time.

The biggest problem with enforcing in any way shape, form or fashion is there are posters who have been here forever and a day have mostly good things to say but are not liked by others and have a rather large negative rating. The rating systems is just a personality contest. If others like you you in good shape if not oops your in trouble.

Rev_Hal, on 05 November 2009 - 09:18 AM, said:

Should we limit the amount of new threads you can start in a day? I'm not sure the org would go for that, but what would be an acceptable #?

There are 20 forums here 19 if you don't count pure football. To limit members to a numbers of post total would not be right. Lots of them post many times a day in the others forums that have nothing to do with negative comments about the TEAM

friar_bones, on 05 November 2009 - 09:31 AM, said:

I agree. But in training camp more threads are popular as more news is prevalent. Thats why I say 3-5

First are we talking about Threads started or posts in threads. Think about it if you could only post 3-5 posts within threads is a little much. Now if you could limit the number of Threads started with in a certain forum that is a different story.
But if you limit members to a certain number of post period how would that be fair to members who post in other forums and not just Talk About the Falcons.

I would like to see things like you have to wait a week after signing up to post. That would eliminate the trolls from other boards coming in and posting negative comments the week before we play their team.

Also maybe something from the Mods end that puts a temporary ban with a warning to the person, on someone who continually starts negative threads after a game we lose. The reason I said a warning is I have seen threads lately wondering why when someone gets a ban and they are they not told why. I also think the explanation should come from something titled the Mods or Admins of the board and not a specific mod. That way it doesn't appear to becoming from the mod who enforced the ban, not that they are afraid or anything just help to keep down hard feelings.

Most of the time if people would adopt the 24 hours after a loss logic and not post till they calm down I think it might get better. To many threads started after a lose based on emotion rather then waiting till they claim down. We all get emotional after a lost especially one like the Saints game that was so close and a division rival.

This post has been edited by falcons faithful: 05 November 2009 - 11:34 AM

[vabchbirdlover]

UnrealFalcon, on 05 November 2009 - 11:11 AM, said:

yes..PLEASE get a 48 hour wait till the new member is accepted and 100 POSTS MINIMUM to start a thread. AND 4 threads a day.

PLEASE

What? I see on a daily basis differnt threads covering

the exact same topics (worded slightly diffent maybe)

i.e. The Falcon secondary blows, Houston is garbage,

numerous J. Anderson threads, etc, (although not so much

lately with his improved play), now, imagine giving

newbies, or anyone a carte blanche to post up to 4

threads a day? Whew, and you think that the boards

crash on game days.

This post has been edited by vabchbirdlover: 05 November 2009 - 11:44 AM

[DeathFromAbove]

Rev get the dang moderator to make it so that someone has to have at least 100 or 200 posts before starting a topic and the trolling will cease PDQ...